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Avengers: Endgame
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So, it looks like Endgame had defeated Avatar as the highest grossing movie, I think. And since the DVD is coming out, we will see all sort of deleted scenes.

I did managed to see a part where they shown off Gamora being alive and everyone taking a knee for Iron-Man. I can see why they deleted it since this scene and the funeral scene might've been redundant. On the other hand, perhaps, it would been better to leave it in since so many people were confused if Gamora was still around or not.

The Russo Brothers stated that they intended for 2014 Thanos to arrived in the Future with Captain America's head. Had they added that in, that would be a real shocker, if not straight amazing moment in the film (along with making a slight difference between 2014 Thanos and Infinity War Thanos).
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I ain't even mad about them topping Avatar (even though Disney technically owns Avatar right)... the ongoing joke is that everyone remembers Avatar was a movie with blue aliens but can't name a single character or recall its plot entirely. So maybe it's a good thing Endgame is the highest grossing movie even if they also rereleased it in theatres...

Apparently the whole time travel shenanigans confused some people and I guess Clint stating that the Soul Stone sacrifice was permanent wasn't sufficient. It also clearly isn't the Gamora that loved Quill, she literally thought he was some random fucko. Lol

What did throw me off a bit was that they kinda glossed over the fact Nat was gone compared to Tony... thats the impression I got but that is just a wee nitpick.

Loki and Vision are certainly dead for good though, although there is potential to chase an alternate timeline movie for Loki with the Tesseract but idk... a multiverse MCU with multiple parallel universes seems to work better for comics rather than movies
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We just have to see how they handle with it in Doctor Strange 2: Multiverse in Madness, which no doubt, going to be extremely balls to the wall crazy. Especially since Wanda will be there as well.

Disney+ did announced a series of alternate Loki doing his adventures throughout the universe. I wonder he'll be a key factor in Doctor Strange 2 Think 

Endgame has pretty much set the standard. I wonder if the next crossover event will surpassed this one?
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I have high expectations for Thor and the Guardians of the Galaxy storyline...
I saw some fans say it was a bit disappointing the way they kind of un-did Thor's development in Ragnarok overtime with IW and EG, but in all fairness I feel like it's necessary to have at least one hero end up like he did in the 5-year gap. Poor dude basically collapsed himself in a pit of depression because all the failure culminated into making him think he's completely worthless: his brother was strangled in front of him right after facing their evil sister, dozens of Asgardians died, he watched almost all his friends disintegrate and the other 4 billion people on Earth went with them; all because he simply used his opportunity 'incorrectly' and couldn't kill Grimace the Mad Titan the first time. And clearly, beheading him 5 years later in some random space hut didn't make him feel any better about it because at that moment they thought there was no possibility of reversing everything now that their timeline's stones were gone.

But the movie tied off basically every loose end that needed to be ended before seeking a different direction with the MCU. Not really sure how they can top off their own thing... how much of a grander scale can we go after IW and Endgame!? lol

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(08-21-2019, 09:50 AM)LoopyPanda Wrote: Loki and Vision are certainly dead for good though, although there is potential to chase an alternate timeline movie for Loki with the Tesseract but idk... a multiverse MCU with multiple parallel universes seems to work better for comics rather than movies

They announced Vision and Scarlet Witch are getting their own tv show. Even the Vision is confused. Alongside the Loki tv show Shine mentioned.

Spin offs for the dead guys!

(08-21-2019, 05:23 PM)ShineCero Wrote: Disney+ did announced a series of alternate Loki doing his adventures throughout the universe. I wonder he'll be a key factor in Doctor Strange 2 Think 

Endgame has pretty much set the standard. I wonder if the next crossover event will surpassed this one?

I don't know if Loki will be a part of Doctor Strange 2 considering that Wanda and Vision is apparently building up to said movie. It's possible, though.

The next crossover event will be difficult to surpass this one. For one, a decade of movies, a story line eleven years long, and character deaths that took the finale from merely "awesome" to "amazing." Infinity War and Endgame would not be as memorable without the deaths of Loki, Vision, Peter Parker, Thanos, Iron Man, Captain America, and Thanos. Real, lasting impact is what made it so poignant.

(08-21-2019, 07:25 PM)LoopyPanda Wrote: I have high expectations for Thor and the Guardians of the Galaxy storyline...
I saw some fans say it was a bit disappointing the way they kind of un-did Thor's development in Ragnarok overtime with IW and EG, but in all fairness I feel like it's necessary to have at least one hero end up like he did in the 5-year gap. Poor dude basically collapsed himself in a pit of depression because all the failure culminated into making him think he's completely worthless: his brother was strangled in front of him right after facing their evil sister, dozens of Asgardians died, he watched almost all his friends disintegrate and the other 4 billion people on Earth went with them; all because he simply used his opportunity 'incorrectly' and couldn't kill Grimace the Mad Titan the first time. And clearly, beheading him 5 years later in some random space hut didn't make him feel any better about it because at that moment they thought there was no possibility of reversing everything now that their timeline's stones were gone.

But the movie tied off basically every loose end that needed to be ended before seeking a different direction with the MCU. Not really sure how they can top off their own thing... how much of a grander scale can we go after IW and Endgame!? lol

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I am highly excited for Guardians 3.

Thor's character development wasn't really undone. I haven't heard anyone say that myself, but looking at it. Is Thor the same as he was in previous movies? Only if you deliberately wrongly characterize him. In Thor 1 / Avengers 1 he's brash, overly self-confident, speaks in an old timey accent and words, and all too self assured of his own power and all of his traits stem from that overwhelming amount of power. In Endgame, he's brash, overly self-confident, speaks in an old timey accent and words, and all too self assured of his own power. Except all of those traits come from the fact he completely broke down from his depression and the absolute loss he suffered at the hands of Thanos. No one took it as personally as Thor did. Why did Thor offer to use the Iron Gauntlet as "the strongest Avenger?" Because he's trying to act like his old, overconfident self in an attempt to cope with the immense grief he has, rather than truly believing he's capable of withstanding the power of the Infinity Stones.

So he's back to his old self, but only as a hollow mockery in trying to conceal how he really is after losing basically everything. So, he wasn't reset to an earlier version of his character. Next question is, was his character development undone? He kept all of the lessons he learned from Thor 3: Ragnarok. He didn't forget that. He remembered to think, to fight smart, and to be truly confident in himself rather than his power and weapons. Other Avengers make fat jokes about him? He simply doesn't care, he doesn't let other people affect him like that. In Thor 1, he went and fought a war and got banished entirely because he wanted to be awesome through bloodshed like his dad. In Endgame, he doesn't even acknowledge the jokes people make about him. In Thor 2 and 3, he refuses to take the throne not only because he doesn't believe he's worthy of it, but because he wants to be better than a king could be because of the awful decisions and reliability they need. in Endgame, he leaves the throne in the hands of Valkyrie specifically because she's not only better qualified, but also because she has truly been their leader while he's been gone. That's something he really learned in Thor 2, and reinforced in Thor 3.

So no, Thor's character development hasn't been undone one bit.

Lastly, nothing could surpass Infinity War and Endgame.
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I think it's the automatic conclusion that once a character is used as a source for some of the movie's comedic relief, it seems to automatically mean that character won't show the complexities of their character from previous movies regardless of what justifies these notable changes. Which doesn't necessarily seem to be true as far as Endgame goes. I mean, it is a 3 hour movie, do we really need it any longer just to be annoyingly explicit that the events of IW fucked him up enough to get fat and sink into depression? Also, him having a braided beard right as he showed up with everyone else to fight Thanos again was a nice touch. idk why, it was just a detail that didn't have to be there but they put it in as part of his "Starting Over" theme.

Also I can't believe the Hulk dabs. He and Antman should be shown lecturing at a uni in the next avengers movie... Dr. Smart Hulk, PhD....


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I have a feeling that WandaVision is take in the past, so it won't be an requirement... or maybe Wanda trying to find a way to revive Vision through other means. In Infinity War, Shuri grabbed something before she was attack by Thanos' army, so perhaps that will be a link to Vision's revival?

Quote:The next crossover event will be difficult to surpass this one. For one, a decade of movies, a story line eleven years long, and character deaths that took the finale from merely "awesome" to "amazing." Infinity War and Endgame would not be as memorable without the deaths of Loki, Vision, Peter Parker, Thanos, Iron Man, Captain America, and Thanos. Real, lasting impact is what made it so poignant.

I might have to disagree with that. In this new stage of Marvel, they can easily do another build up of 10 years of storyline with new entries they have gotten. With Eternals starting off the first phase, I have a feeling that Galactus or perhaps, Doctor Doom, will be the next major villain for MCU. The Russo Brothers did comment that they'll love to return a major crossover event if they adapt the secret wars story. I can see them pulling off again with new faces of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Quote:I'm lowkey kinda sick of "if you want this specific content you'll have to pay for yet another subscription to an entirely different service because we forgot people can and will go back to pirating things if companies decide to dismantle the universal streaming platform known as Netflix for the sake of making more money" so I won't really keep up with any spinoff shows being hosted on Disney+. I'll just torrent it like everything else by the end of 2020 once Netflix gets gutted and left with D-tier movies

I get what you mean, but I think that from Disney's perspective, they're simply responding to what the people wanted. Movie Theater attendance had hit an all-time low in 2017. Disney themselves declared that they will only screen Big Movies in Theaters, while everything else will be on their streaming service. And with more studios releasing more movies, people response towards it is general apathy--no longer its the "oh man, it's so great, I need to see it", it's more of "well, I can watch it home when it comes out". In regards to spin-off shows, this is a great tactics for Disney to bring in fans that still want to consume MCU content--and most likely, it won't have an major affect on the film series (i.e. you don't need to watch them to understand future titles). 

Disney+ is about 13 bucks a month. Netflix and other streaming services need to step up their game if they want to be competitive. And that's assuming AT&T and Comcast doesn't fuck over their consumers trying to watch anything on Disney+ by throttling their internet. People complain about Disney being monopoly when they're nothing but peanuts compared to the dominance force of ATT and Comcast who not only have Internet, Cable and Phone services, but have media/entertainment content as well...
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